
-------- TML Message #968 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 968
From: ("45252-Peter L. Berghold") wrgate.wr.tek.com!uunet.uu.net!allegra!violin!plb@tektronix.TEK.COM
Subject: MegaT
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 9:29:20 EST


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Just got my copy of MegaTraveller in the mail last night.   WHEW!  It is going
to be a while before I can start writing software to gen characters for that
rule set..   Why in tarnation did they make everything so complicated???

I am somewhat disapointed with the new format.  Maybe I'm just an OT bigot.
I dunno.   

On a different note:  Does anybody out there got any WORKABLE random name 
generation programs/tables/whatever?   I'm also looking for some tables to 
gen such stats as height, weight, eye color, etc.


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-------- TML Message #969 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 969
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 10:56:40 EST
From: (Dan Corrin) dan@engrg.uwo.ca
Subject: HiE Weapons


I agree with METLAY in most respects except the following:
> ... it 
> becomes obvious that you're not going to be able to do a good job on them on 
> the workbench in the engine room of your ship! Armories at TL 12 and up are 
> among the best-equipped shops in history, and they handle very different needs 
> than a starship shop. It's one thing to get a fusion gun; it's another to keep 
> it working.

Maintainance is difficult, yes, but if you buy a set of tools for the repair
of the guns, one of the best places to repair a gun's fusion plant is the 
workshop in your ship. After all where are you going to repair the damage to
the fusion guns in the ship's turrets? Plus unless the character has a *good*
gun skill, it won't be safe for them to work on it.


I don't know about other GM's but my players seldom provide their own
transportation. (Mainly due to the fact that their air/raft in the ship
doesn't have the correct licenses to operate on a planet, and it takes a
couple of weeks for processing. :-) That leaves rental, or public transport.
You aren't going to get on a grav-bus with armour, or any form of energy
weapon (unless you hijack it), and the rental agreements restrict carrying
of energy weapons (in fine print of course) so the first accident has the
charaters paying outrageous penalties for transporting prohibited material.

	-Dan

Dan Corrin, System Manager, Mechanical Engineering, UWO, London, Ontario
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-------- TML Message #970 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 970
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 12:13 EST
From: (Bob Mahoney) BOBMAH%PSC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: USENET


I vote NO (wrong, sorry, I don't think so) on the newsgroup idea.  Post
an invitation to join, perhaps, but let's not destroy a great format.

- -Bob

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-------- TML Message #971 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 971
From: ("Mark F. Cook") markc@hpcvss.cv.hp.COM
Subject: Re:Accessing GEnie
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 10:23:59 PST


>Customer assistance Number:  1-800-638-9636, Ext 21.
>Data Settings:  7E1, 300, 1200, or 2400 baud depending on your city's genie
>connection.  HALF Duplex (Local Echo On)
>
>To sign up electroniclly:
>Call 1-800-638-8369 (300 or 1200 baud).  Once connected, enter 3 h's:
>
>HHH
>
>(This sets the baud rate)  At the U#= prompt, enter
>XTX99649.

Almost right, Rob.  I tried this and the XTX99649 part is wrong.  However,
I called the Customer assistance number (above) and a recording told me that
at the "U#=" prompt, you should type "GENIE" instead.  This worked and I
now have an account myself.  Thanks mucho for the lead-in.  I plan to start
downloading the GEnie roundtable files immediately (or within the next few
days, at least).

James, once I've got these files downloaded, can I just shove them onto
Sunbane for the rest of TML?  If not, what would be the best way for me
to make sure that everyone else has access to them?  (Ah, the joys of free
modem access at work.:-))

        "It's GOOD to be the king!"
                        - Mel Brooks

        Mark F. Cook

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-------- TML Message #972 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 972
From: (Rob Miracle) wrgate.wr.tek.com!e.ms.uky.edu!corpane!disk!rob@tektronix.TEK.COM
Subject: GEnie files
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 90 20:38:29 EST


Ok.  Sherry (The woman with the rolling pin) has said ok to me using GEnie
instead of CIS :-( , but I should be getting my Company paidfor account soon.

Here are a few issues that we should address.

  1.  Do we want binaries posted?
      (Example, I have a uuencoded Lotus 1-2-3 Worksheet for making TL-15 ships)

  2.  Do we want BBS messages posted?

  3.  Do we want all Library files (new ones as they are uploaded and old ones
      as requested) posted or do we want selected ones (directorys posted)?

  4.  What formats do we want used?
      Ex.  Subject lines:
      Subject: Weekly GEnie directory listing  [GEnie]

  5.  Do we want to Crosspost our messags to them and theirs to ours?
      (I vote NO, cost prohibitiave)   

  6.  How often do we want directory listings posted?

  7.  Should we set up a mail archive site (Software posted to comp.sources.unix
      recently) so that anyone on the list could request the files???

  8.  Who will do this?

Below you will find samples of the things from GEnie.

Newfiles -- Directory Listing

  No. File Name             Type Address      YYMMDD Bytes   Access Lib
- ----- ------------------------ - ------------ ------ ------- ------ ---

 1861 UCPS-RS.TXT              7 B.BORICH     900207   21420      0  10
      Desc: Revised UCP's for Reb Source Ships
 1860 TECH15.WK1               X B.BORICH     900207   34020      0  10
      Desc: Megatraveller TL15 ship design sheet
 1859 TECH13.WK1               X B.BORICH     900207   32760      0  10
      Desc: Megatraveller TL13 ship design sheet
 1858 TECH11.WK1               X B.BORICH     900207   28980      0  10
      Desc: Megatraveller tl11 ship design sheet
 1857 GE.SPACE                 7 M.MIKESH     900207   13860      0  10
      Desc: Discussion of Regions of Space
 1855 MEGATOPIC31.1            X LSP.MEYERS   900206   70560      0  10
      Desc: MegaTrav BB Topic 31: 1-50

BBS Topics

No. Subject                              Msgs Status Author
  1 Welcome, Traveller players!            143 Open   SCORPIA
  2 HIWG Structure and Function            202 Open   E.EDWARDS [HIWG Guru]
  3 MegaTraveller - General Discussions    303 Open   J.FUGATE
  4 Ships - Designations & designs         130 Open   B.BORICH [bryan borich]
  5 MARGARET'S FACTION                      19 Open   R.THEEL
  6 Programming Megatraveller               50 Open   MBAY [Michael Bay]
  7 Vehicles, Equipment, Robots             44 Open   B.BORICH [bryan borich]
  8 Traveller Q&A                           73 Open   J.FUGATE
  9 Traveller variants                      14 Open   D.PROSSER1
 10 MegaTraveller - Science & Technology   145 Open   J.HOLDEN2 [James]
 11 Rebellion Rumor Central Control         68 Open   R.THEEL
 12 TRAVELLER WORLD HISTORY                  5 Open   E.EDWARDS [HIWG Guru]
 13 HIWG Sector Analyzation                 19 Open   MBAY [Michael Bay]
 14 Traveller Aliens                       150 Open   R.CASWELL
 15 New Product Suggestions                 22 Open   J.HOLDEN2 [James]
 16 Characters and NPCs                      6 Open   W.HARTSHORN [Wally]
 17 Plot Ideas                              20 Open   W.HARTSHORN [Wally]
 18 Miniatures in MegaTraveller              1 Open   W.HARTSHORN [Wally]
 19 Other MegaTraveller Universes            2 Open   D.MCKINNEY3 
 20 THE BASICS                              11 Open   E.EDWARDS [HIWG Guru]
 21 MegaTraveller Flea Market               14 Open   R.ASKELIN
 22 Traveller Player moves/questions       211 Open   B.BORICH [bryan borich]
 23 Traveller Campaign -- GM's responses    79 Open   B.BORICH [bryan borich]
 24 Traveller Mailing List (UseNet)          5 Open   W.LIAW [Wilson]
 25 Imperial Bulletins                      16 Open   M.W.MILLER
 26 Publication Development                 98 Open   M.MIKESH
 27 HELP WANTED!                             6 Open   E.EDWARDS [HIWG Guru]
 28 Beyond the Rebellion                    24 Open   E.EDWARDS [HIWG Guru]
 29 PSYHISTS                                 7 Open   E.EDWARDS [HIWG Guru]
 30 COMPUTER TRAVELLER I                     3 Open   J.PICKARD [Miami Joe]
 31 The Center for Solomani Studies         55 Open   P.CELELLA
 32 HIWG Computerized                       25 Open   B.BORICH [bryan borich]
 33 THE ARBITRATOR                           5 Open   E.EDWARDS [HIWG Guru]
 34 How to break into print                  8 Open   J.FUGATE
 35 Fifth Frontier War Game                 69 Open   LSP.MEYERS
 36 Mechanics of the Imperium               18 Open   P.PLEVRITIS

Sample BBS Messages

 ************
Topic 6         Thu Jun 01, 1989
MBAY [Michael Bay]           at 23:16 CDT
Sub: Programming Megatraveller              

This topic is for the discussion of ways to utilize that model 386/bis in
Megatraveller gaming.
50 message(s) total.
 ************
 ------------
Category 11,  Topic 6
Message 1         Thu Jun 01, 1989
MBAY [Michael Bay]           at 23:23 CDT
 
Not long after I started playing Traveller, I learned to program in BASIC and
set up a number of small programs to help me create star systems and character
and NPCS and animals and anything else I could.  I have lists of Vilani names
printed by a program I  developed from an article in the JTAS many years ago.
  Now, I'm working on a system (in turbo pascal) that will take the sector
data files being uploaded by Joe Fugate run them through the Grand Survey and
Grand Census routines (World Builder once I get it) and store it all in a
binary file for recall at a later date. When you look up that system, it will
have a variety of graphic  screens to display and edit the data for that
system.
  I also have source code for word generation programs, ect.


  I know others of you, using different systems, are programming as well. 
Let's use this topic to discuss ways to utilize our computer systems and
upload examples in the library.

Michael HIWG IBM Coordinator
 ------------
Category 11,  Topic 6
Message 2         Fri Jun 02, 1989
MBAY [Michael Bay]           at 23:21 CDT
 
I will be finishing up a version of the Vilani word generation program this
weekend (6/4/89) and converting it to Vargr, Aslan, and Zhodani and Droyne
languages.  It's written in pascal, so if anyone has a non-IBM computer and
wants the source code let me know.
 ------------
Category 11,  Topic 6
Message 3         Sat Jun 03, 1989
B.BORICH [bryan borich]      at 00:57 PDT
 
To Micheal Bay,
     I think the source code should be uploaded as a normal course of
procedure unless the person is planning on marketing the software.  At least
that's the way I would do it.
 ------------
Category 11,  Topic 6
Message 4         Sat Jun 03, 1989
MBAY [Michael Bay]           at 08:57 CDT
 
Bryan,
  You're right.  It's uploaded!
 ------------

Rob (From his Unix Account)
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-------- TML Message #973 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 973
Date: Fri Feb  9 16:29:30 BST 1990
From: (Solo) derek%TARDIS.CS.ED.AC.UK@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: Usenet, GEnie.


X-Mailer: Ream v4.12 (The One True Mailer)
X-Thought: Is it paranoia if they really *are* out to get you?


  Just thought I'd add my two pence worth to the above topics which
interest me.  I must agree with bertil etc. and cast a loud NO vote to
the idea of changing TML into a Usenet group.  It would lose a lot of
its current flavour, and I feel the quality of submissions might
suffer.
  Secondly, I too am interested in those GEnie files, especially the
ones with sector/subsector data, which I could use in my GURPS Space
campaign, which is based in a variant of the MegaTraveller universe.
Living in Scotland does have its disadvantages sometimes, no access to
these files seems to be one of them :-).


Sayonara,
       Derek.

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-------- TML Message #974 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 974
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 14:59 EST
From: CHAN93%SNYBUFVA.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: no newsgroup!


I dont have a feed to usenet from my site, so I would vote AGAINST
establishing a rec.traveller  group.   As stated before by others,
I don't think we want to have other discussions by rec.games.frp ppl.
(personal opinion : dweeby ppl who talk all the time in : oooh looks like
a d-8 situation with a magic ability of ......   IN REAL LIFE)

as for the genie files : interesting.... as for $$$.. well, I have exactly $5
in small change! to my name.... no job, and still in school....so the $5
is going to have to last me a long time.....

warp speed Mr. sleethe!

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-------- TML Message #975 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 975
From: wrgate.wr.tek.com!reed.UUCP!oresoft.uu.net!richard@tektronix.TEK.COM (Richard Johnson)
Subject: Turn 0.3 - PBEM
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 11:53:00 PDT



Well, we begin this turn with the ending of the Q&A Session:


At the end of the Q&A-session Johann Abuko speaks up:
	"Mr Khervatchkov, You mentioned that your HQ was far away and that 
	might almost be an understatement" he smiles briefly before he 
	continues "According to a small library search" he indicates his 
	hand computer "The headquarters of Turnskaad Enterprises is located in 
	something called the" he hesitates, squinting at the screen, obviously 
	trying squeeze information about the pronounciation from the letters of
	the text "Talmegiian Confederation somewhere out in the Spinward 
	Marches. Hmm, I never knew that there were anything else than us, the 
	Darrians and the Zho's out in the Spinward Marches, but that's beside 
	the point."

	"What I'm driving at is this: Wouldn't the fact that your HQ is located
	outside the Imperium make Turnskaad Enterprises a non-Imperial 
	corporation?" Johann hesitates again, It seems that he don't quite know
	how to say what he wants to say without offending anyone.
	"The reason that I'm asking is that I've done some work for one of the 
	Imperial Armed Services, and signed some papers regarding my future 
	work for non-Imperial corporations, trusts, governments and 
	organizations. And I would appreciate it if you could give us your 
	assurance that this mission won't involve any, eeh, anti-Imperial 
	activites, if I may put it bluntly. I'm sure such an assurance will 
	ease the consciences of many." He finishes, looking at Mr Khervatchkov.


Rest assured, you will not come under any legal entanglements by
working with us.  The Imperial Navy and, on one occasion, the
previous emperor himself have used the services offered by Turnskaad
enterprises.  And, although we might not agree as to the particular
parties involved, me might well agree that some particularly
anti-imperial things are right now being done `for the good of the
empire'.  We have a long history of not being involved in politics.
Politics and business don't really mix in the long run.  It's better
for our long-term bottom line to be able to accept contracts when
and where they happen.  The particular clients paying for this
mission are decidely pro-empire.

*****************************************************************************

Next question:  Yes, Count Ger?

	How far away is this world?  Can some of those slow merchants
	I've seen hereabouts get there?  And once they do, what
	assurances do I have that some scout is not going to simply up
	and say "I'm going to point x.  Restricted or not.  You've no
	real authority here?"

That's three questions.  First - for security reasons, I can't say
how far away this world is.  I will say that you should be able to
get there in two or three weeks.  Second.  So far, no one we've
accepted has a ship with jump capability less than 2.  Not
particularly fast, but not slow either.  Even at this, there are
enough ships here so that you can leave the slowest behind.  Third,
authority.  That's one of the reasons we're hanging on to your money
until you get back.  If you don't follow the rules, you don't get
paid.  If it looks like it's going to be a problem, speak to me -
I'm sure we can work out some arrangement short of requiring liens
on people's ships.


	One-way remote probe? How did it get back with its report, 
	or do we have FTL communication in this Universe????


Well, we didn't exactly say how long ago we found out now, did we?
:-)

	How 'bout acknowledging the rest of the folks who've earned
	their doctorates, not just Abuko?

Er, uh, well, yes.  From the latest information I have, all of the
members of both science teams, most of the engineers, and a least
half of the rest of the crew can say this.  I'm sure your work will
speak much more loudly for you than I ever could.


At the back of the room, Dr. Morser clears his throat for attention.
He appears to be in his mid-twenties, but something about him makes
him seem...older. He runs a hand through his unkempt hair and straightens
his rumpled lab coat, which he wears like a soldier might wear his armor.
He speaks somewhat hesitantly, as though he were more used to dealing
with machines than with people, and his words are sometime touched with
a slight Terran(German) accent.

	"Well, herr Khervatchkov, zis...Alcyon? Yes...does it have 
	any visible supports, such as a...'Beanpole'? Yes...which may 
	lead to ze surface, or is suspended around ze planet like a 
	HULA HOOP?? Mein Gott! ze pozzibilities mit antigravity are 
	ENDLESS!! What must ze POWER PLANT be like..." 
	
At this point, Dr. Morser calms down and realizes he has
been speaking more to himself than anyone else. He looks around rather
sheepishly and apologizes.

	"Excuse me, please. I sometimes get more involved zan I should 
	mit mein studies..."

Adam replies.  Actually, I agree.  The possibiliies are endless.
While I'm not quite sure how to answer your question, it does remind
me of a previous one about the presence of neutrinos:  No the probe
did not detect neutrinos.




	"I've a couple questions, if ya don't mind", Andreas Spear 
	spoke up from the back of the room,  "First off, is this gonna 
	be one a those operations where we hit dirt an split up, or 
	are we gonna stay central and send mixed teams out, or is 
	that up ta us?"

	Spear looks around the room at his fellow travellers, "Two, 
	is there any money in bein' tha first to see an indie?"

	"An last", a smile crosses his bearded face, "and dearest to me 
	heart on these corporation runs, will our pay be docked fer 
	any reason short a deriliction a duty?"


Operational procedures you'll need to work out with the on-scene
commander.  We can't effectively dictate that from here.  My guess
is that a somewhat centralized operation, with several mixed teams
will be most effective.  But again, that's not my decision.  

Finding and identifying indigenous life forms is one of the main
reasons you are going.  No, there is no bonus for simply doing your
job.  Nice try, though.

Will your pay be docked?  That depends on what you mean by `short of
dereliciton of duty'.  Desertion?  Insubordination?  Theft?  Plunder,
rape and pillage?  Sabotage?  Espionage?  Malingering?  We have hopes 
that you will act like civilized creatures.  Historical precedent is
quite clear about the penalties for treachery in space.  I'm sure
your comrades can think of more suitable methods to keep you in line
than the simple threat of financial loss, should you go over the
edge.


	"Another question, if I may.  How long will we have to train for 
	the mission before jumping out?  Will those of us who are here 
	train until the crew roster is filled, or will training continue 
	after the crew is assembled?"  [Dave Sokuku]


The roster is almost full now.  We've accepted several more
applications, and I'll introduce them soon.  (1 or 2 days I hope)
In reality (the blistering speed with which this is unfolding...)
most of your `training' will be to outfit and divide up into teams.



*****************************************************************

So, now lets's join some of the small talk after the briefing...


	Edmondsen turns to  Morser and Spear  and smiles.  He's a
little above medium height, with straight, golden-brown hair,
greentinted eyes  and dark red-brown skin.  He is in his mid-
thirties with a natural air of authority.  His usually somber
face lights up when he smiles, but quickly returns to normal.

    "Well,  gentlemen, as we will be working closely together
for some time,  I suggest  we get to know each other a little
better. May I offer you both a drink?"

    During  the subsequent conversation  the  following facts
emerges about Edmonsen. He comes from a high-tech, high-popu-
lation world. As a youth he served in the armed forces of his
planet,  and he  holds a  reserve commission as captain.  His
later career was made in somthing called the Welfare Service,
apparently  a para-military organisation dealing with feeding
and keeping  under control  the vast number  of unemployed on
his planet,  where he  achieved the rank of  Chief Inspector,
evidently  a fairly high rank.  ( The impression  you get  is
something on the order of an army colonel).

    As for his skills, he avers to be a skilled administrator
and competent  with communications,  driving gravity vehicles
and  security work.  He also corrects an apparent  mistake of
Khervatchkov's:   his  engineering experience  is limited  to
repair and maintenance of gravity vehicles. No general mecha-
nical, electronic og engineering skills.

    He is friendly but rather formal, punctillously adressing
you as Dr. Morser and Mr. Spear respectively, and he obvious-
ly prefer  to be adressed as Captain.  The only time when his
reserve drops from him  is when you discuss the ringworld and
the task ahead of you. Then he becomes positively ebulient.


- -------------------------------------------------------------



Dave moseys over to Iadlvref and Dr. Werner.  "Hiya, I'm Dave Sokuku,
call me 'Dave'.  What are your specialties?  I'm into covert
investigation.  What kind of gear do you think we should request?"




**********************************

Etienne approaches the other members of the Transport team.  He is
dressed in a one-piece flight suit with many pockets.  The rank and
squadron insignia have been removed, but there are several mission
patches still on the suit.  Most of them can be recognized by most
sapients as being major battles that  were fought by the Imperium in
recent years.  Etienne is a little over 6ft and about 165lbs. [sorry, I
will convert to metric next time :(]  He has hair that used to be brown
but has been bleached by the sun, he also has a very dark tan.  He wears
mirrored sunglasses often, even indoors.  There is an empty blade sheath
at his right hip.

	Bonjour, as our gracious host said I'm Etienne.  I'm afraid
	those on high haven't condescended to brief me on my duties yet.
	Have any of you heard anything?  What is the Alcyon, is she just
	a transport, or is she armed?  Which one of us is the poor soul
	who gets to join the command team?  Who is navigator?

	On a lighter note would anyone like to explore this nearby city
	(assuming our watchdogs allow us to) [a small smile]?  I plan on
	enjoying myself my last night near anything civilized.   For
	those who would like to join me, Allons-y, for the rest, Abientot.  



Jaron Voga looks up as Etienne De Mer approaches. Voga is a slim, short man,
height about 175 cm, massing ~70 kg.  He also wears a flight suit, but
lacking any insignia except shoulder patches bearing the emblem of the
Imperial Interstellar Scout Service and the Exploration Branch of that
service.  Brown hair graying a little at the temples, and a "spacer's tan"
from the neck up, from spending enough time in a vacc suit to get one.

	Greetings, Mr. De Mer.  Most people just call me Voga.  I'm afraid
that you know as much as I do about this expedition.  I for one look forward
to being out in space again, but being dirtside has its perks, fresh air
being one of them.  
	As for our duties, my specialization is in sensor systems.  I crewed
on a Donosev-class scout for awhile, so I hope the Alcyon is as well
equipped.  What of our fellow team members?


Nishu has just moved to stand with the other members of the Transport
team.  He wears a navy uniform of some sort:  black jacket with grey
trousers and shoulder panel.  On the breast pocket is a patch, a black  
circle with five silver stars [emblem of the Five Sisters subsector].
He has no insignia, but the uniform seems to indicate a low-ranking
officer or high-ranking rating.

Nishu himself is a large, broad-chested man.  He has brown hair, brown
eyes, and a well-kept beard.  He seems relaxed and friendly even in
this novel situation. 

	Bonjour, as our gracious host said I'm Etienne.

"Glad to meet you," he says, extending a hand to Etienne.  "I'm a
 new arrival of sorts myself."

        What is the Alcyon, is she just a transport, or is she armed? 

"I don't think we've been told what sort of ship she is, yet.  I expect
 that she'll be at least minimally armed; these are dangerous times."

	Which one of us is the poor soul who gets to join the command team?  
	Who is navigator?

"Well, I don't know about the team leader, but I'm hoping to end up as
 navigator myself.  I've had experience in the navy as a navigator and
 sensorman."

	On a lighter note would anyone like to explore this nearby city
	(assuming our watchdogs allow us to) [a small smile]?  I plan on
	enjoying myself my last night near anything civilized.   For
	those who would like to join me, Allons-y, for the rest, Abientot.  

"Excellent idea!  Let's ask our host, shall we?"

Somewhere in here, Nishu will turn to the rest of the Transport team
 and find out what positions each is planning to fill (pilot, etc).
*************************************************************************
Ref's note:  Sure, go ahead, go to town.  Have fun. Let me stay here
and slave away tring to get the next turn out.  Go ahead.  Don't
invite your friends... :-)

Richard Johnson
	richard@agora.hf.intel.com
	richard@oresoft.uu.net


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-------- TML Message #976 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 976
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 15:39:26 EST
From: (Peter Colby bldg 4-1) pcolby@cello
Subject: Usenet News


        I have been following the proposals to turn TML into a newsgroup.
Now I think that newsgroups are great.... except when news breaks down;
which is does around here a lot! So, currently at least I feel that the
TML should remain as a mailing list. Other issues to consider:
        Net Traffic: the number of messages going out on the list is much
less an indicator of net load than the number of recipients of the list.
If there are a large number of people scattered over a large number of
sites receiving this list than perhaps we really ought to consider the
change.
        Flaky news aside, another argument for NOT moving to news that has
already been expressed as the fact that email is less likely to be
buggered with than netnews - especially with the high and growing volume
of news these days.

        Just my 2 Cr. worth
        Peter Colby

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-------- TML Message #977 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 977
Subject: Re: Downloading GEnie files 
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 90 11:13:35 PST
From: (Leonard Erickson) leonard@tessi.UUCP


Genie is liable to quote a totally outrageous price for those files. Remember,
selling *access* to them is how they make their money.

Forget 9600 bps. While I only have direct knowledge of Compuserve's setup, I'm
sure GEnie will be the same. You can't get dialup access at rates above 2400.
You have to get a *wired connection* (ie 2 or 4 wire "leased line") to the 
nearest node, and use whatever sort of 4800 or 9600 modem they have. (I can
guarantee they aren't Trailblazers, HSTs, or Hayes!) And the rates for that
speed are steep. Say $48/hr for 9600?

Finally, we may have a problem with Genie's compilation copyright on the files.
It ain't legal to download a block of files and offer them to other people! We
may be able to get around this several different ways.

First: if we get permission to distribute the files from the person who wrote
them, Genie can't touch us. (I learrned this when CIS was cracking down on this
sort of thing).

Second: being a "limited group"(hah!) we may get away with it by not generally
distributing the files.

Third: they may never notice...

The first idea is the best. If we have permission, that's the end of it. The
second is pretty iffy. The third is downright dangerous!

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-------- TML Message #978 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 978
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 04:11:20 PST
From: (And now for something completely different! 09-Feb-1990 0654) BARANSKI@meridn.enet.dec.COM
Subject: traveller character


From:	MERIDN::BARANSKI "And now for something completely different!  09-Feb-1990 0636"  9-FEB-1990 06:48:52.22
To:	DECWRL::"richard@agora.hf.intel.com",DECWRL::"richard@oresoft.uu.net"
CC:	BARANSKI
Subj:	charecter for traveller pbem

Richard,

If it's not too late to add a character to the group...

Fitz Severin, a slightly built Germanic descendant who speciallizes in
driving/maintaining/designing/constructing small vehicles, the smaller, the
faster the better, especially grav belts, grav cycles or the nearest
equivelent.  He can operate anything up to small space craft, and will be
available to transport the group at the ring world, maintain the vehicles
there, and check out any alien vehicles.  put him on the engineer/transport
teams.  He will try the keep a personal one man vehicle cycle/belt with him
when he can if transporting a group in a larger vehicle.  Enough combet skill
to defend himself if he has to.  He will have a custom designed & built grav
cycle or nearest equivelent.  Think of a bicycle racing jock.

Jim Baranski
16 High St Ashaway RI
203-377-8718

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Subject: E-PBM Turn 0.0
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 90 11:17:15 PDT
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-------- TML Message #979 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 979
From: ("Brent L. Woods") woodsb@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: GEnie files
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 90 17:36:15 EST



 In message: <9002091442.AA14465@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com> Greg Givler writes:
 >
 >If there are no objections I will start downloading some of the files this
 >weekend and will start posting them next week.

     *I* certainly won't object.  Thanks, Greg.

 >Also, there is some Copywritten(?) material on there, mostly the UPW listings
 >of all the Sectors of the Imperium, so you think that it is all right to
 >distribute this.

     If they had wanted to keep their copyright intact, they shouldn't
have posted the information via an electronic medium.  By doing that,
they effectively place it in the public domain.  The principle is that
there's no possible way to control distribution, so copyright can't be
maintained.  For example, by posting something to USENET, you lose all
legal recourse.

     Bottom line?  There's nothing wrong with posting the files.  Besides,
GDW and Digest Group don't really have anything to worry about from us,
do they?  We're on *their* side, right?  :-)

 >distribute this. I mean technically whoever is running this RoundTable on
 >GEnie, wont get any money from my downloading the info, as GEnie let's me
 >do this Free.

     Really?  Is it that GEnie is suppying the account for free, or is C=
picking up the tab?  If the latter, then GEnie shouldn't care.


- --
     Brent

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-------- TML Message #980 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 980
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 90 01:15:53 EST
From: (Greg Givler - Product Assurance) givler@cbmvax.commodore.COM
Subject: MegaT




>On a different note:  Does anybody out there got any WORKABLE random name 
>generation programs/tables/whatever?   I'm also looking for some tables to 
>gen such stats as height, weight, eye color, etc.

I do not have a table in program format, but I do have one that I developed
for AD&D, it has a weighted height table, (weighted height table?) Giving you
an average height of 5'7". It is biased that way because I'm 5'6" so I 
figured, since it was my world why not. Once height has been determined then
you use the height to determine the weight. The system keeps you from getting
6'11" 135LB characters. I once got a character that way. If you would like I can
post it or email it to you. I would have to type it in, but i am in the process
of putting my latest world on disk anyway, so i would have to do it eventually.

I also can come up with a system that uses the Traveller Strength, Dex, 
Endurance, to modify height and weight. Should be able to have something 
next week.

Greg


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-------- TML Message #981 --------

Archive-Message-Number: 981
From: (Bertil Jonell) d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se
Subject: Jgd-Il-Jagd
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 90 9:42:28 MET DST


The Jgd-Il-Jgd is featured in an "Contact" article in JTAS #17.
In the old listing of minor races and where they appear it says that they
are from the JTAS #22. That is an error. In JTAS #22 some furry humanoids
called something beginning with an "H" is featured, I don't really know
their name because I forgot to bring the JTAS in question with me from home:-(
This minor race is not even mentioned in the minor race listing in the 
Grand Cencus.

- -bertil-
- -- 
Bertil K K Jonell @ Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg
NET: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se 
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SNAILMAIL: Box 154,S-43900 Onsala,SWEDEN      (Famous last words)      
"During the high point of the Downes Age, they put Ming the Merciless in charge
of designing California gas stations" W.Gibson "The Gernsback Continuum"

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